every off led as a low brightness instead? dark mode in serialosc.maxpat?

  • I'm wondering what might be the easiest way in max to have every off LED be interpreted to the monome as the lowest brightness instead? a 'dark mode' switch so to speak… for dark situations….

    edit- done, thanks to Raja and 2D10. attached custom serialosc.maxpat with night mode. works with most apps

  • hi elquinto

    i don't have an easy suggestion, but a while ago a few of us put together some max code to pull apart vari-bright messages and turn them into "legacy" compatible ones.

    http://monome.org/community/discussion/comment/182693#Comment_182693

    i haven't looked at it for quite some time, but it might be a helpful starting point?

  • thanks, yeah mine is varibright (yellow-led model 256). could this be done as a mod to the serialosc.maxpat or do i need to go through the app and change every off message?

  • how would i do the /grid/led/row and /grid/led/col commands? i''ve got 'dark mode' working with /grid/led/set and /grid/led/all now. it's pretty cool.

    i hacked it into the serialosc.maxpat right at the first input. i'm sure there's a better way though.— keep in mind i didn't learn about 'zl' til just now, so it might seem a little weird


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  • before i try this out i want to ask- is their a way to make it so i don't need the /mlr/ prefix part? (so this serialosc.maxpat can be used with any app.)

    also- you're definitely right about the gates. wasn't doing that right.

  • i made a little modification. not sure what to do with the /row, /col ones though. would this work?

    edit- i had it totally wrong

  • no i mean this sorry


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  • nvm doesn't work….

  • i just tried your solution with the monome. but i seem to be having problems. all the leds are either dim or off. none fully lit.



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  • okay that seems to work for the /grid/led/set and /grid/led/all messages.

    but /grid/led/row commands seem to mess up led feedback. for every quadrant, the led that lights up on the row when i press a button is opposite. for ex. i press the 5th button on a row and the 4th lights up (and vice versa). or same thing if i press the 8th button, the 1st lights up.

    the app i'm using i don't think has any /grid/led/col commands so i can't test that.



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  • it's still a little weird after /grid/led/row commands. it's like every time i press a button on a row, it lights up the last button i pressed on that row.

  • i'm greatly appreciative, thank you raja. i'm not sure how i'm going to figure this out, since the led feedback is fine without the mod, but i'll try.

    i should mention that the point where the led feedback gets messed up is when i go to the app's secondary pages which use /grid/led/row somehow. (the same ones we were struggling to get ported from monomeserial protocol)

    http://monome.org/community/discussion/18035/problem-converting-monomeserial-app#Item_22

  • i haven't figured out why the /grid/led/row stuff is off yet, but on the plus side, i've used the knowledge i gained tonight about zl to do some other things i've wanted. :)

    @tehn @galapagoose
    if you're reading this, i hope you'd consider adding something like this to the official serialosc.maxpat. it would give people a way to use their vari-bright feature with apps that don't support it, and possibly boost demand for the newer models. /grid/led/level/all 1 is so dim i think it's only really useful in this application anyways.

  • (no worries @elquinto, i just had to duck out quick to get to some other stuff i'm working on...
    it's also good to let others answer, getting different perspectives makes the learning easier...)

  • yeah, i haven't done any of the monome/max tutorials yet or really gone through the 'extend' wiki. i just jumped in and i'm learning as i go. (more fun that way i think) i'll check it out once i get the chance though.

    but i didn't write the /grid/led/row stuff in the app. Soundcyst did, and it works perfectly without the serialosc.maxpat mod, so i don't know what to do. i can only assume something in the mod isn't right, not the app. going to look into it more later...

  • @elquinto
    I do not own a 2012 unit with 16 steps of brightness (just 2011 models with 4 steps of brightness), but if you like, send me a link to your patch, and I'll try to find some time to take a look at it later. Maybe I can help you out.
    I like the dark mode idea !!

  • @red
    cool!
    http://monome.org/docs/app:redux (max for live)

    if you don't have max for live the patch is just a modified port of-
    http://monome.org/docs/mlr:soundcyst_edit

    all the monome osc stuff is the same

  • bump.

    this is what i'm using right now. still could not figure out how to interpret the /row commands and get proper led feedback from mlr_cyst's control pages, so i left the /row and /col commands alone.


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  • @elquinto
    sorry for responding late. Unfortunately I did not have as much time as expected last weekend to take a closer look. Now i'm busy with work again, but I really hope to get back to this as soon as possible, and hopefully i'll find a workaround.

  • @elquinto

    here's something with the row and col commands added to try out.
    it's set up for 2011 grid brightness levels, but should still work.

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  • @2D10
    thanks a lot for putting that together. just tried your mod, but for some reason with 'p nomedec2binDM' i'm getting really strange led feedback from mlr_cyst's control pages. (everything is duplicate on left and right side of my 256. when pressing buttons the leds don't respond right) maybe soundcyst had a really unorthodox way of using /row commands, but it all works perfectly without the mod. i'm going to look into it more later.

  • wait nevermind, i forgot to change my prepend /mlr/grid/led/row to prepend /mlr/grid/led/level/row. (i copy/pasted in your 'p nomedec2binDM' instead of the whole patch) now it works perfectly!!!!!!!!

    thank u so much 2D10. i owe u one.

  • in case anyone else wants this, i updated the top post with a link to my custom serialosc.maxpat.